Family Tree – Ancestor Locations, Mom’s family

One of the things I’ve always wanted to do was mark on one map as many of the important locations in my Family History as I can find.

I’ve always been told that my background is Polish, Ukrainian, German, Russian and a little bit of Gypsy.  I always joked that all my ancestors probably lived within 10 miles of each other but that the borders kept moving.  Turns out it’s not as much of a joke as I thought.  The distance might have been a little more than 10 miles, but borders certainly did move around and a village that used to be in one country could suddenly find itself in another country.

So, to get things started, here is a list of some of my ancestor’s and the locations associated with them from various sources.

From “Norquay Nostalgia” I have the following about my Great Grandfather on my mother’s father’s side:

In 1901 Mike Grywacheski set sail from Tekliwka, “Selo” in Western Ukraine for the United States, as a very young man of only 20 years of age.

The same year (1903) he met Dora Ladoniewsky who had arrived in the United States from Tomorin in Poland about the same time as Mike

From a chain of emails that Nick Ladanowski shared, I also have the following information about Tekliwka:

Teklivka (historical Ukrainian place name) (Teklowka in Polishspelling) exists today, but it is a very, very small place.
On current maps of Ukraine, the village spelling is Tekliuvka.
Shtetlseeker has Tekiyevka as another spelling (that’s probably Soviet-era spelling).
Tekliuvka is in Ukraine’s Ternopil oblast/Zalishchky raion.
Here is a map: http://maps.google.com/maps?z=9&q=48.7667,25.8000+(Teklyuvka)
Old A-H map: http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/200e/43-49.jpg
Tekliuvka is a very small place.

Here it is located on Google maps, zoomed out from the link mentioned above. I haven’t had any luck finding it on the Old A-H map, or matching anything on that second map to Google maps yet.

As for Tomarin Poland, I didn’t have any luck finding that, but I do have a couple options listed in the notes, not sure where I got them from:

Tomaryny, Poland Page
Other names: Thomareinen
Latitude 53.7333 Longitude 20.2333 Altitude (feet) 390

Tamarino, Ukraine
Latitude 47.0167 Longitude 33.0000 Altitude (feet) 78
Tamarino Alternative Name: Tamarino
Name Type: Native Area / State: N/A
Coordinates & Location type:
Area Type: Populated place
Location Type: Populated Place
Latitude: 47.01667 Longitude: 33 (Decimal degrees)
Latitude (DMS): 47° 1′ 0 N Longitude (DMS): 33° 0′ 0 E
(Degrees, minutes and seconds)

I found Tomaryny Poland, which seems to be the most likely candidate:

I didn’t find Tamarino Ukranine, but at the coordinates given, I did find Tamaryne. I think this is less likely, but certainly possible. I’ll have to do a little more digging

On my Mother’s Mother’s side, I have a great deal of information back to my 3rd great grandfather.  The “”Treasured Lozinski Memories” book, subtitled “From the Valley of the Dniester to the Assiniboine” by Larry Lozinski has a great chapter with several good maps and a “History of Galicia”.

The main location from there is the village of Gleboczek (Polish) or Hlubochok (Ukrainian)

The author’s grandparents, on both sides of the family, came to Canada from the Galician village of Gleboczek (or as they said in Ukrainian, Hlubochok), which was located about ten kilometres northwest of the regional centre (Poviat or Rayon, meaning region) of Borszczow (Borschiew), which is about half way between the Zbruch and Seret Rivers about 40 km north of where the Seret River dumps into the Dniester River in the province (Oblast) of Ternopil’ It is quite likely that they travelled by horsedrawn cart from the village to the nearest railway station, most likely at Borschiew, 10 km to the south east or to Ozeryany, 8 km to the north, to take the train, which would whisk them away from their homeland for ever.

I  matched this up on Google Maps using the information above, and the map from the book below, it and it turns out to be quite close to Tekliuvka mentioned above and shown as a star below.

 

8 Comments

  1. This is really cool, Brent. Thanks for sharing it! I will make sure my Mom sees it too as she had collected info to do her own family history some day. I have always been curious about what the countryside looks like where our people came from. I think I’ll take a trip over there some day.

    • Thanks Mary! I’d love to see what info your Mom might have that I’m missing. Most of my information is from the Lozinski book, the Norquay Nostalgia book and a couple of others that I’ve found online.
      Nick Ladanowski also shared his family tree files with me, which was a great help in getting a good headstart.

  2. Hi Brent: We are related and I think we may have exchanged already in the past. However, just saw these postings and wanted to offer a thought about “Tomorin”, Poland. My grandmother was Julia Ladanowska (many other spellings), sister of Domka (Dora) who married Mike in the USA after emigrating from then Galicia, part of Austro Hungarian Empire or simply Austria (you may know that Poland itself disappeared as a political entity for 200 years). Julia joined her sister Domka in McKeesport, Pennsylvania and there met my grandfather, Joseph Skikiewich also from Galicia and they married in 1910. Eventually, they followed Domka and Mike to Manitoba and Saskatchewan to farm. Julia and Joseph had 8 children and their son, Frank was my father. I worked in Ukraine for almost 7 years til 2 years ago and visited where Julia was born (and I believe Dora) – it is Pomorany which has many spellings, i.e. Pomoryany, Pomarin, Pomorzhany, Pomoryany depending on whether it was ruled by Poland, Austro Hungarians, Ukraine. I think Tomorin is actually meant to be Pomarin. And that Domka was also born in Pomoryany. Its a beautiful bedroom town for nearby Zloczow which is in Lviv Oblast – look for Pomoryany in the far southeast corner of the oblast just west of Zloczow. The Greek Catholic Church is still standing, used and cared for and the cemetery has Ladanowski graves. I met with the mayor and staff (I was working for the Federation of Canadian Municipalities and doing a project to help Ukrainian cities with local economic development and have a fair bit of information on the town’s history. Recently, I retained a Ukrainian genealogist from Lviv to see if we can find more information about “the generation that got left behind”. Domka and Julia’s parents were Nicholas Ladanowski and Maria Stasiuk. I am hoping my genealogist will find information about their parents which I will be happy to share. So, you are from the Mike/Domka Grywachewski line, right? This spring, my husband and I visited McKeesport, Pa enroute to Florida and we have been to Ellis Island where Mike (hmm, is it confirmed he stowed away?), Domka, Julia and Joseph all landed. In two weeks, I am off to Yorkton, Canora and Norquay, Saskatchewan to see cousins, cemeteries, old farms etc. Lets keep in touch. Carol Kardish (nee Skikiewich aka Skakie – this is the (awful) name my father and his brother adopted for business purposes). P.S. Are Ken and Mary Ellen siblings? cousins?

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